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Economist Professor Dieter Helm talks to energy consultant Dr Anthony White about the ‘carbon crunch’. Helm is author of The Carbon Crunch: How We’re Getting Climate Change Wrong – and How to Fix it, which argues for a pragmatic rethinking of energy policy. He looks at the transition from coal to gas, the electrification of transport, carbon pricing and new technologies.

Helm is a professor at the University of Oxford and holds a number of advisory board appointments including as independent chair of the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs National Capital Committee. He assisted the European Union in preparing its Energy Roadmap 2050. White has worked in the utilities and finance sectors for more than 30 years.